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  1. Lee

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    i forgot your name on weekends was charles darwin

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    cos you're point is shit and you're shit at explaining it.

    I'd love to spend all afternoon arguing the finer points of the Qu'ran with you but frankly life's too short and it would be as much use as stotting my head of a brick wall for 3 hours
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    Which version? I sincerely doubt it is the original written text, as you wouldn't be able to understand it. Which means you are relying on someone else's interpretation, of which there are many, hence the use of the word version.

    How come you seem to miss that point when it has been explained to you ad infinitum?
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    i explained plenty of times. its an archaic religion that needs bringing into the 21st century

    explain why they can still stone people to death.
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    how am i hanging on by saying something about who someone posted about???

    you really need to get a clue
  6. Lee

    Lee original gowans artwork

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    and what makes you think just cos it was written in another language that whoever converted it to a Quran for English speakers made laods of mistakes and mis interpretations
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    But why pick Islam alone? Pretty much all religions have things like that written into their texts, just go and have a look at some of the stuff in the Old Testament. Some followers will still see those parts as relevant, and carry them out, while others don't. Simple as. Saying it only affects Islam, and affects everyone who practices it, is about as blinkered as you can get.

    I've explained my point plenty of times too, yet you still ignore it.
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    Because language isn't an absolute! Are you telling me you have never misunderstood or misinterpreted something someone has said?

    Let's put this simply. If you went back a hundred years and said something was cool, someone would think you meant slightly cold. In the same way, if you read the original text of the Quran and tried to translate it, you would use interpretations of words as you understand their meaning, which would not necessarily mean the same to the person who wrote them. Not only that, but a hell of a lot of words do not have a direct translation to another language, so we use those that are similar in meaning. Once this has been done a few times, it isn't difficult for the meaning of the original text to be changed.

    Get it?
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    jog on ruth, jog on
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    Lee original gowans artwork

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    how do you know that the English version wasnt translated to English someone who was Arabic
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    It probably was. That isn't the point. Translations are never 100% accurate whoever translates them, ask any linguist. I'm not trying to break a new concept. Also read my point about changing meanings within the same language.

    Are you being deliberately obtuse?
  12. Lee

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    doesnt matter if you write it in english or arabic, the translation is gonna mean the same thing.

    for instance if you mean to treat someone like shit in arabic its not gonna translate as somet totally differnt in english

    the point gets accross
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    Not always! You seem to have forgotten the point about interpretation too. Anyway, I'm giving up this argument now. There's no point if you can't even understand the basics of linguistics and communication.
  14. Lee

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    i do understnad the concept, its not a french bloke talking to a german bloke and not understanding somet he said


    this is a command to harm non beleivers, you cant really mis interpret that

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